Debate
debates can benefit from the nested conversation structure
when engaging in debates it's crucial to reason on a "meta" level to avoid getting caught up in thorny bushes. if you know you won't be changing your opinions today then it's unlikely they'll be changing theirs, so take a second for a reality check. debates are not contests
example Cassie Jaye and The Red Pill --- https://youtu.be/3WMuzhQXJoY
statements like I am a democrat and I am a feminist are dangerous because they suggest a merging of ideas with identity